svdl is great, but unfortunately this ent one of his/her better offerings :'-( Here's how I got it to work; Before ya even go to the cloth room (i.e; in Pose room), open the Groupin' tool. I made 2 props outta the one (separate belt; I couldn't get it to work nicely). Select the Belt group, hit Spawn Prop & name it. Now hit Invert Selection, Spawn Prop, & name it. Now here's the kicker; on yr new beltless Kimona, find the group Lock & hit Remove All. Double check the group Sleeve to make sure everytin is included, then head to the Cloth room. To use the new Belt, collide it against the new Kimona (don't parent), & set a few verts near the beltloops to Constrained. Final note; It seemed that no matter how many drape frames I tried, it would not open fully by simply Draping...I had to actually pose Vicky to get it to open. Good luck 8-)

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