thank you so much for your feedback MzQt and JordyArt and sorry i took so long to reply MzQt, your analysis is brilliant (i have to admit that the bubbles weren't in fact intentional, but the rest i thought about very carefully) one more point is the perspective from above, and the blackness around the sink i wanted to put across how, when someone is cutting themself everything is focused on that one event and on the blood and nothing else matters for that one moment which is what makes it an escape a lot of people said this image was hard to look at and that was why i said before i wasn't totally satisfied with it because i wanted that but not only that from my experience, a self harmer may feel a revulsion at their actions but at the same time a sort of satisfaction and relief (maybe those aren't quite the right words but i can't think of the right ones) at least from my experience anyway i don't think i put that across very well but i suppose its not an easy subject i agree totally with what JordyArt said about mental illness being percieved as "all in the head", it's not it's in the head and in the body and its everywhere and more people need to understand that thank you all again Flopsy (reading over this i'm not sure i've made any sense at all, sorry if that's the case)