I got Mutil-Freak without problems, works in Poser too (freak preschoolers? LOL!) David-Freak looks the best, imho. Here's the info on my the Freak's obj: blFREAK.obj 14,786,022 bytes CREADED: Thu Oct 23, 2003, 12:48 AM MODIFIED: Sun, Jan 4, 2004, 9:21 AM And now for a question.... mmogul, Would it be possible to do Multi-Aiko? That would be awesome! I love to put Aiko3 or Aiko3 Realistic on V3, SP, David, and M3. =) bB