Like we said RobertJ, we don't really care to discuss politics or religion here in the Bryce forum, this is not the place for it whether it involves chickens in a foreign language or not. Everyone has their own opinion and I'm sure you've heard it said before, that opinions are like A-holes, everyone has got one and everybody else's stinks! There are intelligent ways to output your views, they don't have to be wrapped in hate and be hurtful. Just take a look at Picassos work.