And to be fair to CL, they did offer a discount to 'early adopters' of P5. All in all I paid 56.16 for Poser6 to my door (that includes VAT and Delivery!). Now thats not a huge amount to pay for an upgrade that promises more than a few cool new features. Who knows, perhaps when Poser 7 comes out, maybe we'll get a discount on that for being early adopters of Poser6! Lets face it, would you rather get Poser 6 early and live with a few bugs that will be eventually fixed or wait a few more months until the problems have been totally ironed out. Me? I'd be grateful to get to play with it right now even if it did crash a few times on my computer.