"Personally, I'm sticking for now with V5E + modules, and waiting to see what TGD (terragen V1.0) is like when it is released." I heard there was a version 2 on the way. Sub-surface scatering etc... Saw some renders of ice done in it. Stunning is all I can say... But I cannot wait for my version of Infinite to arrive at my door. Not too long noe...lol