Well as one that started their poser use with the poser 5 pre order and waiting 6-8 months to actually use the product I've had my share of beef with CL and Poser. I went backward and got Poser 4 and ProPack and finally got into poser and didn't feel overwelmed and could have fun like the rest. Doomsayer, basher, ranter? oh yeah I've been that and am now saying prove me wrong with poser 6. I preordered, I'm hopeful but I never turn a blind eye to the past. I've seen that I'm not alone. Some of ranters and soapboxers could also be considered community watch dogs too, some may learn from our experiences and see things to look out for too.