Actually Caly, it isn't on 'faith'. It's based on how the entire program -series- has performed. P5 was the proverbial royal mongolian clusterf*ck of a release, no question. However, we also know that CL's parent company was in the process of going under...and being owned, CL didn't have any choice in the release matter except to obey their bosses. And you have to factor in exactly what was under the hood; P5 was a quantum leap over the 4 previous versions. The hair room by itself would have been a monster to perfect in one shot...and they had that, the dynamic cloth, the face room. I've said it before; the fact that P5 works at all is more than slightly amazing. P4's release was a bugfest as well...remember? All that's really changed in the dynamic is us, the users. Back then, people experimented and found uses for the bugs, and turned them into features. Now, there is much more of a 'I want it now and I don't want to think about it' mentality...which isn't exactly compatible with CG artwork at any realistic level. EGISys never impressed me as a stable company; it seemed too much like one of the many dotcom start ups that didn't have the business sense needed. E-frontier is a very different animal, being on release 7 of a popular pro modellingrendering app, and having survived in one of the more brutal business environments in the world. CL has the support of a company that has the capitol and the technical expertise to actually be an active partner in the process. That =does= change the equation a bit. At least in my book.