Cherokeegal: Any chance you use a Mac? If so, you will appreciate Macinstall and Macconverter (by MartinC, prolly in Free Stuff) because you don't have to know, and if you want to know, just drop the whole folder onto Macinstaller and then use Find... to see where they went. ravenfeeder: Cr2's can be generated by text editor, but usually a model is saved from a 3d modelling program in a plain text format. Raw 3d meshes can be scanned from physical objects using a laser, but a Poser model has additional attributes, flexiblity for instance, added in. And once again, while the coordiates for each vertex are in the .obj, the .cr2 contains displacments from the fundamental mesh in the .obj.