"CL deserves the support of the community which has been built around their product" Why exactly is that? Curious Labs is a company. Period. They are out to make money as are all other companies. Most PC's are run on Microsoft OS's yes? The entire web community is built around individuals that predominantly run MS OS's correct? So I guess we all owe loyalty to Microsoft because the web community has pretty much been built around them? Anyone saying anything bad about Windoze better watch out, they are "bashers" and deserve to be bashed themselves. What a load of crap. Curious Labs doesn't "deserve" anything. If they produce an app that does what it's supposed to and is stable, then they have done their job. It's what they get paid for. If not, then they DIDN'T do their job and will ultimately pay the price for their incompetence. Trust and respect are earned Xeno,and a lot of the trust CL's once had was lost after the P5 fiasco. Now they have to EARN it back by producing a stable and well built app.If they do so, I'll upgrade, if they don't I wont. Don't sing it, bring it. I keep hearing CL did a good job with Shade 7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Shade been around since the mid 90's? I'm pretty sure CL had nothing at all to do with the coding of Shade 7. They are simply marketing it for their parent company.