Tibby, before you leave; buy some fresh fish, knock a hole in a platerboard wall; deposit the fish inside the wall; plaster the hole back up....... or if the cupboards have the false backs slightly away from the wall, there's another place, but the wall ones will NEVER be found in a month of Sundays!!! eugh.... he he he (",) (cat food works well too - that one I would select a hollow door, drill a 1" hole in the top and squeeze a packet of cat food down there........)