Rik makes some good points. Maybe even a TOS for the "V" thing? Stopping that would eliminate a lot of the arguments against the H20. Though I sure many just do that for encouragement, it does cause some others a lot of grief. Another suggestion: Tally the votes only once per day. that way you couldn't "hawk" your posts and check the H20 after every comment to see if that person voted. I tend to vote for a lot of images some days - maybe limit to 3? Marion and some others have misunderstood my suggestions (the "hare brained scheme" lol) for separate, "professional" galleries to mean "beginner" and "expert". I was merely suggesting a separate gallery for those who did their art for money and trying to come up with some way the original complainers might segregate themselves from the woof and warp of the regular galleries so they wouldn't be "invaded" by, supposedly, "unqualified" voters or at least what they thought were unqualified. Probably not such a good suggestion - just trying to suggest some way for those folks to be satisfied. Rick