oops and duh....silly me...this is a bit of a tutorial isnt it.....sorry..i still don't quite understand some of the terms but i may be able to glean some knowledge from it....i am currently trying to figure out how to create a character that is a bit like eon flux but more muscular and human looking much like the witchblade comics...so any thing i can learn from the 'old pros' is greatly appreciated. my question about D/S and poser 4 still stands also about the other tutorials available.