odeathoflife, I also noticed that Zygote is mentioned as a partner. It makes me wonder if they had a had a hand in designing the new P6 meshes. Surely their name wouldn't be mentioned so prominently if it was just in reference to Dork and Posette;) Besides, the Jessie and James meshes appear so different from the other figure meshes in the past in the way they appear to be modeled. I wonder if e-frontier coughed up the $$$ to have Zygote design the new models? If you look at the Zygote site, it seems as though the medical field wasn't lucrative enough for them, so they've started branching back out into other things, again;) In all honesty, Dork and Posette were very good and useful at the time Poser 4 was released and with what Poser was capable of then. How would anyone know at the time how long it would be until Poser 5 was released, and how all of us would learn to get the most out of Poser 4 in the meantime;) Just my theory. I'll be very interested to see how things turn out. If I'm wrong, then that should be a compliment to whomever the artist(s) are who modeled the P6 meshes, they look very, very professional! -hOss69