randym77 sure wish you lived by me, perhaps we could trade skills? You could teach me how to model and I could teach you sewing, which secret Aunt Sophie tailoring tips. ;-) I don't have the expertise of course to answer your question you posed to Lyrra - but the little modeling I did try seemed to be very time consuming. Any obj you make, and you do make an obj with this plug-in, can be turned into conforming clothes. Marque - yahoo phobia? Curious I am not doing anything with yahoo.