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Subject: Poser Hair Transparency Problem in Vue5 d'esprit


Dragontales ( ) posted Wed, 09 March 2005 at 11:33 AM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 2:22 AM

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As you can see in the attached image, I have a vicky model with a hair prop. It works fine in Poser, but for some reason renders in vue as you see. Almost as if the hair is wavy or something. I'd like it to be as seen in the poser render. Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? I checked the materials and they have the correct maps applied. Also, in the poser render, you can see that her eyes are looking downward as I would like. In the vue render, they are looking upward/forward. Why would the same scene loaded into vue have differences in the positioning of meshes? Thanks for your help, Dragontales


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 09 March 2005 at 1:52 PM

You're using two different camera views of the face. So the eyes, of course, aren't looking in the same direction relative to the camera angle.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


Dragontales ( ) posted Wed, 09 March 2005 at 1:58 PM

Actually, the camera is in the same exact spot. I made sure of that by placing a sphere in front of the camera in poser so that when I brought it into vue I could place a camera exactly the same. You can see in the eyes how on the poser render that her pupil "rests" on her lower eyelid, but on the vue render rests against the upper eyelid. Thanks for the reply, Dragontales No ideas about the hair?


HellBorn ( ) posted Wed, 09 March 2005 at 2:42 PM

The camera might be in the same place but it has for sure not the same focal setting. The placement of the camera and the focal setting do however hardly have anything to do with the problem. To even guess, a real closeup and more high ress render is needed so that one can see what it is that goes on in the hair.


Djeser ( ) posted Thu, 10 March 2005 at 11:09 AM

Also, could you tell us what hair it is? If I have it, I can test render it and see what's going on; if I don't, someone else might be able to check.

Sgiathalaich


Dragontales ( ) posted Thu, 10 March 2005 at 1:46 PM

I'll try and get a higher render for you, but for now the hair is "Long Hair Evolution". I used the short one in previous renders with great results, but so far this one's been giving me problems. :) Dragontales


Djeser ( ) posted Fri, 11 March 2005 at 1:02 AM

Is that Kozaburo's hair or Hmanns?

Sgiathalaich


Dragontales ( ) posted Fri, 11 March 2005 at 10:30 AM

It's kozaburo's. :) Thanks


Djeser ( ) posted Fri, 11 March 2005 at 12:55 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=765723&Start=73&Artist=Djeser&ByArtist=Yes

I just realized you were talking about Vue 5; I don't have it yet (waiting for Infinite), but I used that same hair in Vue 4 Pro with no problems. It looks to me from your small images at the first post like the trans maps isn't applying? Did you check the transparency settings?

Sgiathalaich


Dragontales ( ) posted Fri, 11 March 2005 at 1:56 PM

I know the map was in there, but I'll go back and check the other settings. I'm starting to think it's just the way the shadows are making it look. It's been a busy few days at work, so I haven't been able to go back and figure it out yet. Thanks for the help so far. Dragontales


Sacred Rose ( ) posted Fri, 11 March 2005 at 3:52 PM

advance warning ~ I don't have vue 5... having said that, I would have to agree with Djeser's diagnosis. It does indeed look like a transparency issue.

When we were mid transition from vue 3.1 to vue 4etc, this kind off look was quite common. The most effective universal fix was to ensure that all the transparency settings in the specific problem/issue file eg. hair/ texture/ model; were checked to make sure max transparency (or colour if appropriate etc) was set to 100% in all layers before saving for export into vue.

Once imported into Vue, through the world material/object editor (f7)each layer was tweaked to ensure complete transparency had infact been translated.

Often, we discovered (in the early days) it hadn't completely translated through export/import transition, and so we adjusted it accordingly.

The most common files with issues were (for me specifically) hair files. Especially since they often had multiple trans layers to begin with.

Not sure if this was helpful, but I thought it might help a bit if it was explained with a bit of detail.

Would be very interested to hear the outcome, and or alternative findings & solutions etc.

~beck


Djeser ( ) posted Sat, 12 March 2005 at 1:42 AM

Hey, Beck, great to see you! Hope life is treating you well these days!

Sgiathalaich


Dragontales ( ) posted Sat, 12 March 2005 at 11:17 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=865632&Start=1&Artist=Dragontales&ByArtist=Yes

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Ok, I had some time to experiment and what I found is starting to scare me. I had forgotten that I had already used this hair prop in an image, and it worked beautifully. (See Link) So I Compared the already imported hair prop (from the image) with a newly imported one from the same exact poser scene and got the results you see above. The newly imported one has the problems. I copied the material from the old one to the new, and had the same results. It appears as if the hair is getting messed up on import. I wonder if the last update from E-on is the problem. Any ideas. If my Vue is messed up, I'm going to cry. :)


Dragontales ( ) posted Sat, 12 March 2005 at 12:13 PM

Update.... I uninstalled the last update, and still got the same results. Please....someone tell me what's happening...How can the same exact file import differently now. Also...now that I unistalled the latest update, I want to put it back...I had it check for an update and it says it's already up to date....making me loose the last update. How do I get it back?


Djeser ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 10:13 AM

I'm afraid I can't help you with this, Dragontales, hopefully Agiel or someone else with Vue 5 will check the thread and be able to help you. Hope you get this solved!

Sgiathalaich


Dragontales ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 2:04 PM

I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoo hoo. Not sure why it's doing it, but I figured out how to correct it. By simply inverting the normals, and then inverting them back, the problem went away. Not sure why, but that's what fixed it. Anybody have an idea why that worked?


Sacred Rose ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 2:08 PM

Heya Dj hugs been away for so long...almost forgot how to surf ;) life is as always full of.... but, I'm still kicking. How are u? more importantly.... hows life for you & yours? I can't wait to catchup on all the news! huge hugs `b


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