Carolly, "Just click on the Vise installer icon" What's that? "in the Mike folder" And where's that? I have kept a copy of the file I downloaded from Daz - is that any good? I have both the (ps_pe038-michael3.exe) file and the zipped file (ps_pe038-michael3.sit) if either are any good which should I use? (I've made a folder ready to hold stuff) "(and don't panic)" Oh you're way too late on that one, did that ages ago! Fran

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