I'm with you 100% Darkworld. With P6 coming out I wouldn't count on any more P5 service packs. Unless there is enough complaining. I for one won't be buying P6 any time soon, unless I know that the many problems I have with P5 are gone. New features are useless if you can't get a render finished with the figures I need. Lately I'll be rendering a scene merrily along, making a series of stills, making some minor pose changes to various figures, no light changes. And then all of a sudden the render hangs, either at "Adding Objects" or in the middle of the actual render. I think P5 has some serious bugs still that CL is either ignoring or too stupid to figure out.