Oh well, guess there's nothing we can do. I mean why is it so much harder than Bryce I wonder... you can hook up a scene in Bryce that could literally take 60 hours to render. But it wont crash! Poser tries for less than 60 seconds on loading textures before it decides to give up. I actually woke it up one time and managed to pull off Saving the file.. but I haven't been able to repeat that trick. If I have to save before EVERY single render that's going to add a LOT of time. Because saving on my system takes almost as long as the render itself... I guess it's just very inefficient programming.