and another aside....is there anywhere that there's a modeling challenge, much like they do here for images ??? although in my case, just modeling anything is a challenge. I bought Shade LE wehn it first came out be CL in english, noe just bought Shade 7 Standard upgrade ... used Ray Dream DEsigner, then Studio, plus Carrara 1.1 before giving up on modeling...but something keeps drawing me into those programs. I really want to do modeling.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854