Dave-So, To get back to your original point... there are indeed far too many look-alikes in the Marketplaces, and not enough variation? Why? Merchants won't risk something untried. Merchants will make things which they know have sold before: sex and fake bondage packages for V3 & M3. I'm more tired than I can say of little-girlish faces with pouty lips where all the lipstick has been rubbed off the middle. I'm equally tired of tight leather strap garments which can only be worn in the privacy of a bedroom. I don't even bother to download the free ones anymore... and certainly won't pay for one! For the men, I'm bored with shadow or unshaven mange. Either a nice full hairy beard (and some of the historic variants would be refreshing!), or a clean shave... not this "I used a broken scallop shell 3 days ago" schtick. From a distance, it just looks dirty. Even villains have access to razors. One of my gripes about Aragorn in the movies was the ratty chin stubble... anyone with a drop of elf blood IS beardless, according to Tolkien. The other reason we have too many look-alikes is that most of these merchants are using resource kits. They hate to paint seams so they just paint a spot of eye color and copy a tattoo they found on the 'net and try to sell it as a new character. The ones doing the photo-realistic skins use the same set from 3dsk as 3 dozen of their competitors. This is why the handful who take their own photographs are in demand... and only as long as each texture is different. I might buy something once, but won't buy it 3 times and will feel ripped-off if that happens. A ripped-off customer is a non-returning customer. If it has highlights in the skin or the eyes I'll almost certainly not buy it because I'll have to take it into PhotoShop and repaint it. I put the lights in a scene where I want them, and not where the texture says they have to go... and what if the eyes have the light from one side and the skin from the other? Fake! Painted plastic doll eyes. And if the hair and clothing has highlights, too, it can be a real mess! As for clothes? Most of the so-called ethnic ones available are laughable... from the movies or TV... and entire cultures aren't treated at all. When is the last time you saw something suitable for a Mongolian/Korean/Tibetan (etc.) court? Something a real Viking would wear? A toga? Something an Incan or Mayan could walk up the temple steps in? Some of what is advertized are merely textures for outfits with the absolutely wrong silhouette such as the people who tried to pass off the MFD as a kimono or a cropped-off t-shirt and miniskirt with a silver reflection map as battle armor or whoever threw celtic knotwork on some tunic and tried to pass it off as viking women's garb. Don't insult me by assuming that I don't know that a cuirass should cover the vitals or can't recognize where a pattern comes from! Half of the images I have "in holding" are because I don't have the clothing items needed. This isn't necessarily historic or exotic or fantasy garb... but clothing suitable for various professions or activities. Have you seen an artist's smock? A gardener's apron? Something a billionaire CEO business woman could wear in the office? Mechanic's coverall? All those fancy cars and wierd machines and not a single mechanic? I'm tempted by PhilC's clothing creator. I'm also eager to see what Shade can do. As for hair, a lot of it looks alike, too (side messy-part, shoulder-length, bangs)... and there are entire categories which are untouched. Braided beards? Butt-length or knee-length or floor-length locks (either straight or curly)? An accurate Egyptian hair wig? A page boy? A helmet cut? (grown-up version of the page-boy and suitable for kings & courtiers). So there is lots of messy hair and bedroom hair... but not everybody goes around in public with an uncombed doormat on their heads! Besides people lacking clothing and accessories, there are also animals. Finally, after YEARS of begging, we have a horse skeleton... but what about the dog, cat, and cow/ox skeletons we've also asked for? At least a half dozen canines, but no skeleton. I must have 20 dragons in my folders... but not a single badger. No ermines, minks, martins... and only a pathetic rubber rat. :( Thanks to bloodsong, we have a selection of hawks and falcons... but someone needs to model and texture a complete owl package. If I had money to wager, I'd bet that we'll see 3 more horse models before we see a badger or a weasel or a groundhog. It is odd, but the Poser world reminds me more of medieval literature than art. The old literature was full of knights pricking across plains and queens waiting to be rescued, but no mention of the person making the armor or feeding the horse or cooking the feast. If you weren't royal, you didn't exist. The art, OTOH, was crammed with gardeners, sheepshearers, men holding the hounds, women gathering flowers, musicians and acrobats and people just pausing from their labors to watch the procession... and most of them had clothes on! Carolly the Opinionated