Rayraz, I hear you on your points, but equally, I have and still do on occasion use Bryce for paying jobs! - I'll have to post a couple of recent ones in my gallery. Undoubtedly, eventually you need to get a real polygon modeller of some sort, and there is no denying that rendering time in Bryce is very painful compared to something like C4D, but like Incarnadine, I must confess I feel a certain longing to be back in more 'innocent' times with Bryce - I was at my most creative and explorative with that app I think! - once you get into some hardcore poly modeling, you can almost forget what it's like to construct a scene in Bryce in the same amount of time. Brycers - I still love ya! ;)

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