but still leaves people using 3ds or bryce or other render engines to get the looks, then selling the product for use in poser, where you wouldnt get the same thing you bought, the advertising should say for V3 in bryce or poser or whatever the render was made in essence, you are changing the "recipe" of the product, then selling and advertising it every render engine is different, and gets effects that cant be done in any of the others pictures i make even use a couple different render engines for one pic, just to get the effects