I didn't say I was new to Renderosity, I said I was new to this FORUM. I'm not surprised to see the moderators like nemirc and and mateo responding with non-sequiturs in the form of grunts and hoots...I've heard it's their trademark after all, and allowances must be made for those of limited capabilities. And of course they will defend themselves and their cohorts as petty beaurocrats always do. Where else would they get any feeling of personal power? Certainly not from their own capabilities! mrsparky, thanks for the honest attempt at being helpful, but sometimes things are so badly wrong that you just have to speak out. galactron22 - of COURSE you haven't heard of a lot of people being banned around here! How would you hear about it? They are banned, and they are forbidden from showing their pictures in public to prove that they did nothing wrong!! If they protest their unfair treatment or ask for a public forum in which to air their greivance, they are banned permanently. The rest of you - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.