Man, when I bought bryce 3&4 they were expensive.....I have no proplem buying a software if it is expensive(photoshop bundle for 999$).The thing is, if the program is what you want, has features that you find valuable in pictuture/art creation, and is pricey.....save up for it.Usually, if a program is expensive, it has lots of flexibility and is geared tword users who plan on learning the app inside and out.If you are a casual user...take what you can get and stop getting misty eyed over apps that are not made or geared tword you at all.3D art is a privilege, not a right.I like Bryce alot, but have moved on recently because it was holding me back, but I still enjoy this community and its members.Chances are I'll always play with bryce here and there. I will say though...Vue is tempting....but I already can do everything that that app has feature wise with my copy of cinema.But if I want a tree...I have to model it.....arg, I'm going nowhere with this really.I'll shut up now.

I eat babies.