So does the millionth "This is a product.." post when all you want to do is share something you've found with others. No border line is involved, past president is, no ads by manufacturers. Second hand posts by satisfied cutomers are ok. Sorry if I come across as argumentative, I don't mean to be. I just like seeing other peoples view on products and what they can do with them. It's a big influence on my purchases. No other forum has so much petty nit picking... by half. mike