I had a lot of hassle with Poser 4 with more than about 512MB or 768MB - I never could get it stable at 1GB IIRC :( REALISTIC dragons would very much resemble dinosaurs, as dug-up dinosaur bones are actually the source inspiration (or a major source) for many of the dragon myths. So as has been said previosuly, a "realisic" dragon would have to forgo wings or forelimbs in favour of the other. There are actually fossil records of creatures with all manner of digits - more than 10 per limb IIRC and down as low as two. However, five seems to have been a remarkably successful number for fingers on the whole - and nature tends to go along with the rule "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Some critters have even had a "finger" emanate from the elbow, seemingly in order to aid flight! :D Cheers, Cliff