its not that im not "smart" enough to do fantastic renders of my products, and it may cost me sales, but im selling products, not artwork. Ah, but I'm a very visual person. If the promos don't look good to me, I won't buy the product. I don't want to have to imagine how it would look with better lighting, more artistic presentation, etc. Maybe it's just me, I dunno. I like promos that make me think, "Wow, I could make a render like that, too!" and if the promo render is lackluster, badly lit, etc. etc., it just doesn't want to make me do a render with it. :-) bonni

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