I just want to say that I personally can't stand her hair, neither the "flip" or the ponytail, and I've morphed it to GREAT extent to try to get rid of that look. But, it's quite difficult, even when I use Rhino for it, I have a real hard time straightening the Flip hair out. I like a little diversity, and Zygote didn't include a "straight" morph for the hair. As for the ponytail, I opened it once, and that was it---end of story. If they were anything oyther than downloadable models, I'd have returned them both ASAP. The P4 hair that you get around here for free is FAR better and can be made to fit Vickie just fine, and is far easier to morph as well. And Digital Babes' FREE hair simply blows away Zygote's hair, IMHO. The point being, DON'T BELIEVE that you NEED the hair! OR the textures, for that matter. Just buy Vickie, and forget about the textures and the hair--- like I said, the free stuff around here will get you by just fine. You really ought to get Catherina's eye texture pack though, for sure. JUst my opinion---don't anyone get upset, please. All this is a matter of personal preference. Cheers, Mike