oliver, I owe you an appologie for the turn this thread has taken! I wish IU had half the talent you render displays and I have taken this thread away from that. I do love the hair style and the way you've used it. As I said this type of thread, from happy customers, goes a long way to influence my purchases! I'm just tired of the ever growing number of forum police, who's only seeming pleasure is to try and keep the rest of use "in line". That's the job of the moderators and the coordinators, and they do a very good job! Everyone else should lighten up and enjoy the posts they like and ignore the ones they don't. 'nuff said on this subject. I hope to see more of your renders. Here and in the galleries. mike