The point still remains... is this dragon worth the price? No. The number of hours put into it is just as irrelevant as 3000 hand-hammered studs or real antique brocades in a costume if the final effect falls short. (And I am sorry for the wasted time.) Whether some chickens have bone spurs on their heels is just as irrelevant as whether whales have teeth if the model "looks" like the wings would break off before leaving the ground or if it would stab itself when flapping them. It has to look logical and natural. Another question remains... WHY is DAZ continuing to turn out bad models at high prices? And why are they turning out retreads? Even on a limited budget, I'll buy good models. I'll buy even average models if it is something that I don't already have and can't get elsewhere and can fix without too much work. I won't buy bad models... at any price. The Milcat was marginal, and I got it only because of Lyne's wildcat morphs. I refused to buy the dog. I refused to buy the horse. I refused to buy the bigcat And I refuse to buy this abomination. That is a dismal track record for their modelers! (I paid a pretty penny for the original dragon, eagle, and sea serpent, but back then, they were state of the art.) What are they going to paper over next? The rat? Sure they could take the mesh and regroup it, improve the posability, add a new texture and a morph for fangs... and sell it to us again as a new model, with extra packages for different breeds. wowie. Or they could look at the wishlist and make something new. Something good. Something worth buying. My money is on the rat. Carolly