i find it quite hilarious that daz is so psychotically overprotective of their models - models to whose success each and every one of us contributes when we create an add-on product or post a gallery render - yet they themselves are host to so many trademark 'oversights' its not funny. dont even get me started on that. the shitstorm they started over the CL license, the integration of mike/vicky into the face room, and the dozen others over the years... hypocrisy reigns in the poser community. all they are accomoplishing is that the moment a viable alternative to V3/M3 comes out as a base for the add-on pack creators merchants will flock to those new products and abandon V3/M3 to daz. considering their in-house talent works at a snail-pace and is limited to reselling subdivided zygote meshes this wont look good for them. theyre biting the hand that feeds them... and you know what pisses me off the most? there are so many more customer-convenient methods of distributing characters via CR2s. i could have distributed my entire latest character as one CR2 that loads in a click.. but i couldnt. why? because the distributable 'blank CR2' that daz allows us merchants to distributa has the damn delta channels stripped from it!! what is the point of having a distributable CR2 if all of the mil3 functionality is stripped from it??? what possible purpose are they serving by stripping the otherwise benign and useless delta channels from the distributable CR2 other than to inconvenience and cripple their add-on providers? that alone earns a big 'fuck you daz' from me, and thats biting my tongue. i bust my ass creating products that earn them many sales - my latest pack has made them quite a bit of money on SP3 since a huge portion of my customers said its the only reason they bought the model. the least they can do is not make my job any harder. they should have a license that allows content creators to create content for their figures as long as it doesnt eliminate the requirement to purchase the base Daz figure, and leave it at that. anything beyond that - and especially what ive been reading in this thread - only makes me eagerly await a figure that lets me abandon Daz and their products altogether.