ehh.. the whole thing is a complicated mess if you ask me. i feel... uncomfortable just having made clothing for daz models now. like i dont even own my own work. reading les' eloquent statement i definitely see things from his perspective as well - it can all be very confusing. i just dont understand this huge mess were in. perhaps i need to start working on my own mesh and that way i can just do what the hell i want without having to worry whose legal tentacles i may be stepping on. its daunting to say the least.. makes you want to go back to just making run-of-the-mill caucasian vicky textures like everyone else.. but then again those arent safe either, huh? if anyone from daz is reading this: how about creating a fair EULA for your products - in english - that actually encourages content-creators to work with your products rather than terrifying them. original mesh creators: let this be a lesson, i suppose. be nice with your EULAs and more merchants will be inclined to create add-ons. after this im pretty sure all of them will be putting your EULA under the microscope. cheers, -gabriel