Damn, Rendo timeout thing again. Firstly, let me clarify something. Nowhere have I stated that DAZ were doing something legally underhanded or that they forced Sixus1 to remove L2. Assuming, however that what both sides are currently saying is true - it would appear that the "terms" under which the continued distribution would be allowed were too confining for Sixus1 Media. Like myself, they probably looked at the cards on the table and said that it wasn't worth it. Anyone who is shocked and awed by cooler's post should really think about what was offered in the Lilin2 figure... V3-compatibility. So the similar shape, and copied JP's are kinda required. I has assumed that the JP's might have been tweaked a little for the slightly different default shape, but can understand why they were left as is. The fact that they were copied is not something I argued. Hell, niether did Sixus1 Media! I respect cooler's work, and have always liked the fact that he explained copyright issues in "laymen's terms". However, due to the fact that I started this thread for the purpose of informing others of the EULA restrictions, I feel it is a distraction from the main issue shrug Now we've had several people comment on the advice they have recieved from legal professionals, and note the fact that not one has disagreed with my hypothesis that one cannot legally create & distribute "derivative" products (such as clothing content). The only "official" post to the contrary was in the link to a PoserPros forum post by DAZ ini regards to their "intentions". As my legal counsel hass informed me, intentions mean nothing - what would matter in a court of law (should it ever get to that stage) is the EULA we agree to when installing V3. And, as it stands, it does not allow any part of the "3D model" the be distributed, given actions undertaken by DAZ both in this regard and others recent enough in memory for me to point to the merchant's in question - this includes the Joint Parameters. If I have spread misinformation of any kind - please point it out and I will be sure to retract said statements & apologise to all concerned. Until then, I will stand by the advice I have recieved in this matter, and that is to not attempt the distribution &/or sale of any products that contain information stored within the DAZ figures.