I'll have to bow low then, lol :) I think creating pure Bryce and/or your own models is is done by exceptional people or takes years of practice; both of which, I'm not...yet :D How many people think "male" when they read "Burpee"? Do you picture some guy in a sleeveless T-shirt, lounging back, bare feet up on the furniture, chin stubble, holding a beer and burping? Yea, I know that would be cool but it really stands for Burpee Seeds because I love my garden. What a let down, huh? :D