$3,800. cdn... $950 for cebas final render 1 too... sold a kidney... I mean robbed my rrsp's this week... I'm happy though... been using Max 3.1 for ages now and I really like max7 now!! Hey Birdie... there is a demo for max7 as well as you might the free gmax... it's mainlyfor game mods but might be interesting!

The GR00VY GH0ULIE!

You are pure, you are snow
We are the useless sluts that they mould
Rock n roll is our epiphany
Culture, alienation, boredom and despair