You're right, Yvonne! This is as good a place as any to start. I have seen more fractal artist here than any where else and since R'osity does get a lot of attention, maybe this will come to pass with the help of everyone involved. 3D had to start some where too, at first computer art of any kind was not considered art either, but with enough people getting into it, it grew like wild fire and now it's at the top of it's field. I just hope that some one will give fractals a chance to grow in to the "mainstream" too!!