I'm not sure what to say here, czarnyrobert. What you have said is inspiring. I also agree with it a lot. And finally, off topic, I'm amazed at your English (bowing). But, as I lift my imaginary beer to my lips and stare across the small round table at you, I smile and ask you the following: IS Renderosity supposed to be pro? And what about the hobby people we have here? What about those, like me, who don't have a lot of artistic abilities? Should we just never post (because we don't want to embarrass other Vue users)? I wish Vue and Poser were not looked down upon so much in CGTalk. But, let's understand this: An affordable piece of software attracts people willing to part with money in order to try to express themselves artistically. The more affordable it is, the more people take that "step" to see what they can do. Your bound to get people who aren't wonderful with their new tools. And, I admire your work! It's wonderful and detailed as anything out there. But CGTalk just isn't R'City in my opinion. Two different sites if you ask me.