Dan, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately for a lot of 3rd party developers, they are stuck providing the bulk of the content for themselves. This is due to the fact that most of the content providers are channeling their time into supporting DAZ figures. Coincidently, this is why figures such as Elle from Neftis at polymage.com have never taken off as Neftis became ill shortly after the figure was released. As incentive to take interest in these figures, the 3rd party providers are stuck with the choice of making the bulk of the content themselves or trying to provide cross compatibility with other figures. Perhaps situations like the conflict with Lilin2 could be avoided if DAZ and its brokers supported 3rd party figures like Elle, Dina, Natalia, etc. At present, I'm not exactly sure as to how that would be possible since last I heard there was a policy of not supporting figures brokered from other sites. But I could be wrong on that. thanks, Jeremy