Mordikar, I just remembered you popped back into the community after a one to three year hiatus right? Brother, Daz3D Michael 3.0 and Victoria 3.0 are now FREE. No you didnt misread that. Happened about a month or so ago. They are now gratis, complimentary, and thier cost is diddly divisible by squat. In fact they are reworked, they are now called M3SAE and V3SAE (Special Anniversary Edition I believe) and include a bunch of expression morphs (head morph pack may be necessary for use of this, not certain). Anyhow, get yerself over to DAZ, and get M3 and V3, youre more than talented enough to create any clothing for them that you cannot find free. Just que them up for download, youll see them in your shopping cart with $0.00 due, and then select the paypal as opposed to credit card option. As nothing is due, you wont go to any paypal form, just a page to instantly download your new millennium characters :) Sorry about what I just did to your precious free time! Logan