tropob; www.belino.net. This is the homepage of Phoul, who has been using Poser and Vue for animation for some years now, if you need an idea of what the combination can do. Enjoy (Phoul did the current Vue Infinite demo, and the previous demo for Vue 5)! If you are wanting to animate, then the HyperVue networking scheme is a godsend. The hardware requirements are =not= state of the art (the slowest box in my own rendergarden was a Slot A Athlon 700 on an AMD mobo with all of 384 megs of PC-100 SDRAM. So you could easily assemble a small farm from old hardware people -give- you. If it will run Win2k, it can be used). Keep any comments about the apparent lack of animators using Vue and Poser in context; as in there are comparatively very few animators -period-. Ummm, stealth1701? Just a suggestion, but (a) Drop the light's intensity a bit. (b) Shift the light's color away from pure white and more towards the cool end of the spectrum. (c) Check to make sure you changed the ambient highlight; Poser and Vue use inverse color values (one uses black, the other white to get the same effect) (d) Adjust the eyelash tranparency so that they can actually be seen; that really makes the eyes look different between the two images. (e) If you are working in Vue 5, drop the lighting and switch on global ambience; that should soften those sharp shadows. It's nice work on both, but by looking at the -cloth- you can see the differences in the illumination used. But stealth has a good point, as well. Vue's lights -are- geared more towards external illumination, and will require some creative tweaking to get good skintones without trashing the terrain appearance. But it is very, very do-able.