hauksdottir: Like i said still way WIP.. i'm just getting basic shapes donw :) i do however plan to split the chest piece in half and model straps :) just not that far along yet sa with the vision in my head i need to get other stuff done so that i don't have problems with the straps being in the same place as other pieces (don't wanna hide the details) :) logansfury : Wow michael and vicky are free? ... odd i never saw that in the daz newsletter ... must have skipped that one.. maybe i'll look into it. Still have the issue of loading a super hi-res figure then covering the whole thing in realistic hi poly count armour ... just seems like a waste to me :) I have Aiko.. i don't like her face or body at all ... i know she was designed to be an anime character .. and realism wasn't the heart of her .. but .. something about her bugs me and i don't quite know what it is. Once i get this piece finnished i'll look at what i want to do next ... but ask logan guys it could take me a while :)