but why bring it up at all... "...was pathetic and immature"? sure that made him feel better but he can speak for himself as well as the rest of us... nevermind... i can see this is going nowhere & certainly don't want to get your hackles up any further... we like having you here, you know photography, have a good eye & can be pretty funny... there's no suppression of freedom, just a reminder... i won't say another word here :P phhht