"Face it - Renderosity IS an amateur site. That is why I like it here. If it became another of these elitist 'pro' sites, I would have to move somewhere else." I think most of us would go somewhere else. Robert, I just went over too your site and read up on the creation of Silent Spring. It took you more then 7 days to create the scene, perhaps even more. Then 37 hours to render the scene. I'm an amateur 3D user (who does some proffesional projects once in a while, mainly comic related), got a family, a daytime job, I'm chronically ill (so at times I can't even be at my job or spent time on projects), got one decent computer (and a very old one running win98) and you expect me to climb up to your level. I don't have seven days time for one image most of my projects need over 50 images, it would take me a year or more to finish one project. I can not afford spending 37hrs on a render, again that's 77 days. Since Vue has the terrible habit of locking up a pc when rendering, I would need to buy a second pc for renders only..... Can't even afford V5I, so let alone a second pc. Most of us here are like that (except for being chronically ill, I do not wish that to happen to anyone, not even my worst enemy, if I would have one), so please forgive me if I do not have the abilty and desire to climb up to your level or higher. I do think this thread has run it's course and I'm not going to add more to it then this small statement: I'll hope you'll be happy now that you can play with the big boys..... just do remember that the big boys don't come and play with us and they don't want most of us to play with them either. Please allow each of us to have his/her own playground and don't try to create one big playground. That would really take all of the fun out of are little games and we would be bored watching the big boys play and not being allowed to play too, since they wouldn't allow us to play with them anyway.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk