Well creed you are right, it is amazing that the longest threads are about ranking and discussions about what is art and what not, or which programm (tool) is good or not instead about the art (pictures/images) itself. So there are my two cents: To Robert and all the other pro, or semi-pro artists who are posting such fanstic works: KEEP ON POSTING!!! Keep on posting for the reason of showing what is posible, to inspire and to give beginners something to strive for. That should be you motivation! Not any Excellents or Great remarks!!! You should know that your work is good and give a damn about any ranking. Instead, if you spent so much time, sweat and tears (and I bet there were a lot of tears, when I consider how often my Vue is crashing when I work with it) why don't you do a tutorial about it like Thomas Krahn did about many of his works (which are stunning, btw)? Personally to me, any references to such a tutorial or image would give me more satisfaction that an "Exellent" (and if you look and count, how many "Jungle" pictures have been posted over the month - that would boost my ego on his place :-) Also, why not posting small items you created for an image in the free stuff section, to give the less experienced something as a start up help (I know, Robert, you did and many others too, but there could be more...) And now to the "amateurs" like me (I am only a sunday-afternoon-bad-weather-artist): What is the point of sending a picture? A- You think honestly, you work deserves to be shown, because it could be inspiring to others. B- You think your work is not that good, but you need help. Well then, ask for it!!! But in this case it would be a good idea to disable ranking... C- Neither of those two points, well then, why use network traffic cost to post it.... I have to admit that choosing if the work is worthy to be displayed or not is difficult. For my part, I have chosen that my work is not worthy to be posted, yet. And here is to you creed2003: Is your house a 3D model? If so, why don't you pose it into an angle view, instead of straight ahead? Maybe even into a view from slightly above or below? To me, the proportions of the trees you have used, do not fit to the house. I think their trunks are too big. Put some grass in front of your house as you did with the tree on the left to hide the sharp edge. Your background needs some attention. Either more blurr or a steeper hill (you can see the horizon without anything inbetween the trees and the sky which is highly unlikely). Also used some more vegetation, perhaps a hedge half way to your house and perhaps with a nice gate (you could use the wooden door which comes with vue - I think - and jolt it in the vertical size. To all, use you energy for art and not for fighting (or argueing, that's a waste of time!!!;-)