Mike, I agree that it does get more than a little "politicaly correct" in here, and some folks takes things wrong or even completely out of context. I also acknowledge that you and I may have even ruffled each other's feathers on a few threads, but isn't that part of life in general? Don't go, you are indeed " a breath of fresh air" as has been put, but I see where you are coming from, and it's your choice whether to discontinue your being a part of RR. But I for one would hate to see you leave....Jack