Wolf - did it occur to you that Laura (standard default Laura from DAZ) is 'nekkid little girl stuff'? She's naked when you load her! AAAARRGHHH And so is Luke! And the little ones Maddie & Matt, and - the Milbaby!! Oh woe.... this means that Salt Lake City-based DAZ is a kiddie porn site! AAAAAH Nooooo (Rolls eyes) :] Fish - ooh sarky, sarky