i just read this between jobs. going to work (AGAIN)... i guess i need to be a little careful too about off comment stuff. i know i do it. i didn't think about the ebot thing. i never check them or get them (unless i forget).and i forgot about dial-up people having to contend with them. i'll try to be a bit more careful about that stuff. personally for me, i like the laughs. i like the causualness of being able to be yourself and be silly. and i like how that off comment stuff is a way for us to get to know each other and be more cohesive as a group. But that's only MY opinion, and i realize not everyone shares it...either because it clogs their email, they have dial-up, or they're just plain not interested. donald, yes, i know what you mean about sugar coating. and i just wanna say i want ya'all to tell it to me like it is. no sugar coating. i don't need it. i try to be verrrrrry gentle with my words and in giving feedback & suggestions. i don't wanna hurt people's feelings. i'm scared of doing that. if i know someone pretty good, i don't worry to much though. that's all i have time to say. hugz to everybody!