thanks folks, Now I updated the video driver thinking that might be it, restarted and BSOD crashed the whole thing. Had no PS2 keyboard so went to work to get one, loaded last known good configuration and I am back but shakey - me i mean no the computer. I will test a bit more and repost thanks for your support. Does poser 6 need to be installed on the C drive? I installed it on the E drive since it has so much more room I wanted to migrate over?