I ran the install and first run with all virus protection and firewall OFF and that was it, worked like a charm thank you everyone for helping me get through this trying time. I went from the heights of happiness - MY POSER DOWNLOAD IS READY - to the depths of despair - UGH I TOTALLY HOSED MY ENTIRE COMPTUER WITH A BAD NVIDIA DRIVER UPADTE - to - OK DRIVER IS ROLLED BACK AND NOW I CAN DO THE VIDEO JOB I HAVE LINED UP FOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS - TO - SCARAB MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT FIXED MY POSER 6. Thank you all again and again. I hope I can pay it foward sometime myself. I will watch the forum over the next few weeks and see if anyone else has this problem so I can help out and credit Scarab.